Ironically, the best thing to ever happen to Stoeger is also the reason why they will never be a household name. How can I find a Stoeger Industries dealer? If you can lay your hands on a Spartan coach gun, the Russian Remington some call it, do it. by Mescalero Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:51 am, Post . The 1873 Colt clones are better made, but even they benefit from a tuning, since the action is essentially the same as in Colts black powder pistols. Stoeger Coach Guns single and double trigger shotguns are based on the Old West stagecoach guard's shotgun of choice. and was consistently seeing that if you want to shoot an 1897, you need to get a gunsmith to slick it up. http://marauder.homestead.com/files/stoeger2.html. Rubber butt pad. I would steer anyone away from Stoeger over/unders. Theres a great deal to learn about Stoegers premier side by side but before we get the ball rolling on the Gunivore review of Stoeger Industries Coach Gun, check out our rundown on the past, present, and future of the entire up-and-coming Stoeger Company. For another top-shelf optic, Im a big fan of EOTechs XPS2 holographic sight. Don't go doing things before you even fire it. Either way, these are both exceptional price point shotguns. You can see in the photo below that the surfaces are still not smooth, but they are smooth enough to meet my needs. And thats when it happened. It only lightly dents the primers, but will not ignite the load. Every score has been better than the previous. Ergonomics * * * * More specifically, coach guns were ubiquitous in the Wild West, especially for defending stagecoaches, which is why sitting in the passenger seat became known as, A lot of people think the Coach Gun is a niche firearm, but in truth, its actually a quite versatile shotgun. JerryB II Corinthians 3:17, Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. Stoeger, although still relatively unknown, manufactures some of the best budget shotguns on the market, and their line of Coach Guns is something you really gotta check out. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. I havent shot hunting load shells in this gun, but may do so in the future, although with 20-inch barrels, the recoil from a heavy load may be more than I want to deal with. This model is equipped with standard extractors (not ejectors) which push shells out of the chamber by about 1/4 when fully open. You have entered an incorrect email address! The Stoeger Coach gun is available in the diminutive 410 gauge and makes a perfect companion to a large gauge Stoeger shotgun. Check to compare by Ji in Hawaii Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:48 am, Post They replaced the gun the first two times. I have heard many good things about the Baikals. It stays in his gun cabinet. If yes reinstall that original spring? I have rid my garden of groundhogs with #5 turkey loads. My dad was better with the SxS than I was, he could actually break some clays. From the right barrel, they hit about four or five inches to the right and an inch or two high. The Stoeger Coach Gun passed one of the most stringent tests I apply to guns: the giggle test. I traded an old flintlock kit gun to my ex brother inlaw for his never fired coachman nickleplate. Barrel length: 20" Overall length: 36.5" Average weight: 6.5 to 7 lbs. Broken down, it will fit in a backpack. Thats 90% of the issue. I started by polishing with fine grit wet/dry sandpaper to get the finish off of the parts. It patterns 4" and 5" with #3 buck 20 pellet loads. Not seamless but pretty fair, certainly mass produced factory close. It's a pretty hefty gun so no need for a recoil pad. Because they wanted to stick with the classic appeal of a true Coach gun, most of their models feature the traditional double trigger. The Stoeger Coach gun is available in the diminutive 410 gauge and . by Mescalero Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:08 am, Post He did send me a new spring. Have LTCH to verify . With bird shot, there was a good deal of overlap with the pellet clouds. Easy? The handsome and affordable single- and double-trigger scatterguns pack a potent punch. My BIGGEST suggestion would be to call the company, and ask. Also ensure the extractor face does not bind in the opening of the chambers help. The factory Stoeger resets the safety every time the gun breaks open. The easiest way to address this problem is by simply giving it a quick CLP treatment and that should do the trick. Re: What's the go to choice for a coach gun? The Stoeger Coach Side-by-Side Shotgun is designed with classic style and the spirit of the Old West. Get a good quality recoil pad (I would recommend a Pachmayr Magnum Trap pad for this application) and put it on the gun. The ability to change the chokes was the main reason I went with the Supreme model. Good writeup. What make of shotgun shells are you using? The new value of a STOEGER COACH GUN shotgun has risen $15.15 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $534.39 . All of these coach guns are ideal for Cowboy Action shooting and home defense. It handles and points wonderfully. Johnny was a race car driver, oh he drove so fast, he never did win a race but he never came in last. In terms of their overall build, these Coach-variants are nearly identical, but slightly lighter than their field equivalents. Think he bought it to look at himself in the mirror .lol. For those who want to criticize my use of a new gun in a competition, at that point in time, I was measuring my shooting times with a calendar instead of a stopwatch. by Bridger Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:05 am, Post I have used it for jump shooting ducks with 3" steel shells and killed many birds with it, including doubles on wood ducks. Barrels are well regulated. I recently bought the plain jane model stoeger coach gun, however mine is the single trigger. I sent it off to Kiowa Nate Jones and got his action job, and it is a very sweet gun. I do it with a Fox or Parker or an O/U. Browse the large selection of Coach Gun products offered by Numrich Gun Parts. Here is an excerpt from the Beretta Wikipedia page: The parent company, Beretta Holding, also owns Beretta USA, Benelli, Franchi, SAKO, Stoeger, Tikka, Uberti, and the Burris Optics company.. The TTN is a 12-gauge gun, built on a "10-gauge" frame.. Have compared mine to a friend's old, original 10-gauge, 1878 Colt. Thats life. love my coach gun..have the plain jane modeldidnt know the ic was r barrell and modified was left barrelshoots great with 7.5 shot dove loads..bought some number 6 today..i use it for rattlesnakes on our texas deer lease..also love to watch cactus disappear. Not anymore . Brand: Stoeger. Actually hard to open. All of these coach guns are ideal for Cowboy Action shooting and home defense. Left barrel Modified choke #Stoeger Fan Photo: Jason B. But I would certainly not be unarmed if all I had was a Stoeger Coach Gun and six spare shells. Thanks. Thought my daughter could use it for home protection a bit quicker, shes fifteen and Im a single dad. What types of problems would not be covered under warranty? I know this is a forum for Ruger discussion, but I've seen discussion on non-Ruger related products, so I figure this is alright. This engages the safety. Mine is an early (pre-Cimarron) TTN, from the second import lot.. So I had to remember to flip the safety off before pulling the trigger. Ask Stoeger to replace it with a duel trigger model, you will have no more issues. The same held true for the Remington Slugs, which kicked quite a bit harder than the Federal Reduced Recoil slugs, but nowhere near the beating dished out by the Express Magnum buckshot. I believe it is the Coach Gun Supreme, stainless receiver, blue barrels. Contact them either via email or private message. pic.twitter.com/w4m2jS4gfJ. Like the Double Defense, the HS12 is super lightweight, user-friendly, and very powerful. Sadly there are no smiths in this town. by Nate Kiowa Jones Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:43 pm, Post Fast? Although the black-finished walnut stock and polished nickel receiver model is equally sexy and intimidating, I steered clear from its double trigger. I don't know of anyone who has had the misfire troubles with Coach Guns, and I know of two that have stood up well to fairly heavy use & hunting over a number of years. or you could call Stoeger @ (301) 283-6300 and request a Hard Copy. Just PRIOR TO YOURS. True competition rigs, which have lightened hammers with a different style tang and a trigger polish, and short stroke actions for lever guns, are best performed by a professional. also is there a manual for this gun? I would lube it and shoot it. The photo on the left is my chamber mouth as it currently exists and the photo on the right is the chamber mouth of a champion shooters coach gun. The coach gun turned me into a clay-bird-destroying machine of death. Steve Young aka Nate Kiowa Jones Sass# 6765. Here is a nugget of info for Stoeger owners. The Stoeger Coach Gun is a lot of fun in a lightweight, easy-to-handle package. I pared a lot of wood off the fore-end, turning it into a modified splinter type. However, the few nuanced mods made to the double-barreled shotgun make a huge difference. Eligible for FREE shipping * Trigger Lock Lever, New . First a little coach gun anatomy. By With the buckshot at 25 yards, both barrels put plenty of good hits in a good place on the target. I have one of the Pedersoli La Bohemienne shotguns a beautiful gun.Pedersoli sells the Wyatt Earp short barrel coach gun version which is basically the same gun. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! With the correct ammo, I could also use the coach gun to hunt everything that walks or flies in the state of Arkansas. I now have a $400 shotgun with $700 invested. We discuss most anything here politely. Skip to main content. Barrels fall open from their own weight, at the touch of the toplever.. Drew, You will find the INFORMATION your seeking in the Post The Stoeger Coach Gun was the top choice for enthusiasts looking for a side-by-side shotgun in 2019, according to volume of purchases made through the services of Gunbroker.com. Side by side "Old West" style. The 1897 and coach guns are the most common used by cowboy shooters so thats where I started with my research. They weren't short barreled coach guns both were 28" barreled bird guns which were a tad heavy but built like a T-34 tank. I've got space on my walls and guncart. I was surprised to see how much material he actually removed when I got a chance to handle it earlier this month. Always let me down on hunting trip and never on shooting range. Experience speaks for itself, and the Coach has a brilliant track record. The other 2 have their own problems. I started out shooting Winchester AA Low Recoil/Low Noise Target Loads, which use 26 grams (~0.9 oz) of #8 shot with an advertised velocity of 980 fps. And then I made my fatal mistake with the Coach Gun. I own several of them. Ive shot skeet with it. Big 5 in northern CA has them on sale now for $389 until 09/21/2013. Or Less, Gun Review: Taurus GX4XL T.O.R.O. About us; Sell Your Gun parts; Buy Gift Cards; Order Status; Cart; Account; . There it was: a stock and action section, forearm piece, and the barrels. It is hell-for-stout, and still tight, after several thousand rounds, including 3" 000Buck and 600-grain Brenneke slugs.. It makes a huge difference. 3. Greener action and nicely done. Does anyone know what the fix is or do I have an expensive wall hanger.HELLLLLLLLPPPPPPP!!!!! Since I switched to Winchester I have not had that problem. 9mm Pistol, Federal District Court Judge Orders Illinois to Show Examples of Every Newly-Banned Firearm, Gun Review: Taylors & Company TC9 1873 SA Single Action Revolver. The handsome and affordable single- and double-trigger scatterguns pack a potent punch. Its a nice shotgun with none of the problems you describe or any others. I have 2 IGA/Stoegers, the Coach Gun (20") and an Uplander (26"). For suggestions, collaborations, or requests, contact [emailprotected], We keep our coach gun loaded with 00for two shells we dont have to take a backseat to anyoneand to this day no one fears any firearm more than looking at the business end of a double barrelsimple and reliable, quietly brought to readynone of that racking noise bullsh!tanyone at the bedroom door wont get further, Your email address will not be published. This creates a funnel effect that makes it easier to insert the shotshells. This destroyed the gun meaning it had to be replaced under warranty. Required fields are marked *. Like the Double Defense, the HS12 is super lightweight, user-friendly, and very powerful. Basically, the bolt that screws the stock into the trigger housing, or "tail" as it is referred to in the owner's manual, keeps loosening after about 16 shells through the barrels. Stoeger shotguns are widely known for the affordability and value and available in a variety of models. Now you can utilize the same stopping power at home with the Stoeger Coach Gun Double-Trigger Side-by-Side Shotgun. In contrast to all my collection of pistol-gripped shotguns, the Stoeger Silverado features a straight, English-style stock. The hammers are close for easier one-handed cocking. Copyright 2019 sassnet.com It has chokes that just obliterate clays for me, even at extended distances. Seems very solid. If you have one of their stores in your area, that would be a good place to look. All you have to do it tighten those screws up and youre back to business. Posted: 6/8/2013 7:18:57 AM EST [#5] One other thing to look at is head space. It would be a bad place to find yourself at the other end of those two barrels.Love My Coachman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did you have the lever spring lightened for easier operation when opening? Win-Chokes, available at MOST Gun supply outlet stores. Killed two at 40 yards and they never moved out of their tracks. There are more accurate guns. Many, many thousands of rounds thru each. Never had a problem with reloads in any O/U or SXS Ive ever had . But, as I was soon to discover, the Silverado was no lightweight. The Stoeger Coach 12 Gauge Break-Action Side by Side Shotgun features break action with 2-round capacity and a short, 12 gauge barrel that is chambered for 2-3/4" and 3" shells. Gun Test: 1878 Hartford Coach Gun 12-Gauge Double-Barreled Shotgun With lingering thoughts of Christmas, home and family as they went about their routine chores, the Yanks were caught by surprise when Forrest mounted his attack. A grinder made all the difference in the world in doing this. There are guns that do certain things better. I took wet/dry sandpaper and worked it into the chambers until a shotshell would fall out without resistance. Although side by sides are relatively uncommon for sporting nowadays, many folks do use the Stoeger Coach for plinking, trap, and cowboy action shooting. Very nice. I passed due to deciding the $ would be better spent on my colt AR. P.S. I think it is an excellent value for the money. I ended up adjusting the spring and impeller at the same time because the impeller is hard to remove and reinstall with the full-length spring. by JerryB Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:09 pm, Post Plus I cant forget about the game changing fiber-optic sights. Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. Obviously, there are better guns for home defense. It is called a coach gun because it was widely used by stage coach guards in the Wild West days. I know, I know: most side-by-sides break down the same way. Starting with the most famous and expensive, Id like to give my readers four great options to choose from. This is not a recommendation, but it seems like you could use a 7/8 Flex-Hone to slick up the chambers evenly and quickly. The biggest was its stiffness when trying to break it open. Click to expand. It is death on black birds. I love rifles. I have no buyer regrets and will likely get another at some point in the future as a backup. Then I started looking at free advice from the internet (worth every penny!) The straight, English stock also made the piece feel more shotgunny and easier to swing than my Remington 870. on just what YOU NEED TO DO. With birdshot and buckshot, the groups were also different sizes. 1887 lEVER ACTION HAS A VERY LONG STROKE OF THE LEVER AND TAKES A BIT OF DEXTERITY TO LOAD. $4.69. Finicky? It was stiff, but loosened up the more it was shot. While there are still companies that manufactured 1897 clones, I read conflicting information about the quality of the clones and I didnt want to buy one for competition that would be older than I am. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Jun 18, 2017. 4. With a few more matches, the gun loosened up even more, just as others had promised it would. My wife actually expressed an interest in my long guns, wanting to know which ones were loaded in case she needed one. $779.00 $699.99. The Silverado is a not-so-long gun you can stick in a backpack, wrap in a waterproof bag for a canoe trip, or stow behind the seat of a light aircraft. by Leverluver Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:55 am, Post The barrels are standard blued as well. Polecat Polecat in a Poke Joined Apr 8, 2013 Messages 2,761 Likes What's on the current list? I bought new Stoeger single trigger 12 ga. last summer when I started CAS. Pard of mine did much the same work as you accomplished on yours to his and hes had it serving him since 1995 in the game. Stoeger Model M3500 12 Gauge Shotgun with Realtree Max-5 Stock and 28-Inch Barrel. Maurader has a website that addresses both the problem of Stoeger Coach Gun misfires as well as the problem of popping open. Akheloce Registered Joined Dec 24, 2012 Update your browser to view this website correctly. Did the same with other guys shooting it. I have a Stoeger Coach Gun. Sight . The 20-inch barrels are the longest single chunk of the gun. Is there a diagram or instructions for changing firing pins, I have waisted enough money, http://www.longhunt.com/gunparts/stoeger.htm. Quantity: Buy now. Barrel: 20 inches. Stoeger is one of the last low cost SxS makers left in the world and they make a good gun for the money. That being said, I did find one product which gives Stoeger a run for their money: Mossbergs Maverick HS12 Thunder Ranch Over/Under shotgun. The next challenge was the safety. The term "coach gun" is a generic description for a side-by-side shotgun with an 18-20 inch barrel. The only two coach guns that I know of in this range are from Stoeger and Century arms. It was from China I think and it felt like the biggest piece of junk shotgun ever made in the history of the world. by Panzercat Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:31 pm, Post This little critter has the potential to be a fine multi- tasker . The Supreme's butt stock and beaver tail fore-end . In my comment, above on FEB.5th, if you watch the Video provided, at the end of the Video, IT ALSO EXPLAINS THE PROCEDURE>. I had one like that on a 12 ga a few years ago. While I still need to do a little more grinding on the chamber mouths and polishing of the mating surfaces, Im happy with my efforts to stick my toe into the gunsmithing realm, although that term is probably too generous for my fine tuning. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. The Stoeger Condor is a great value in an over and under stoeger shotguns and is available in the light shooting 28 gauge to provide greater shooting challenges. LEARN MORE. This is a great shotgun for getting started in cowboy action shooting. Am I missing something, or is it just that last 5% like all real craftsmanship? Also have a CZ hammer 12 gauge double. Ji, did you just say chukar hunting on MAUI??!!! The falling P/E ratio is the result of future earnings increasing relative to the current price and suggests bullishness in the company by analysts. Also a potent home security gun, the Coach Gun is chambered for 2-3/4" and 3" shells. I tried Remington, Winchester, Imperial and Federal shells - 2 3/4 to 3". Owner's Manual. It just started having light primer strikes at 250 rounds. In Stock. Whether putting these Stoegers to use in competition, home defense, or various hunting scenarios, the Coach will not disappoint. (My shoulders don`t like to pump my 97 without pain.). It was very tight. However, the few nuanced mods made to the double-barreled shotgun make a huge difference. Out of the box this gun will not fire. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. I actually find this one of the only parts of stock making and fitting thats actually doable for me (I cant checker to save my live despite lots of attempts). Now, Ive only dome maybe 5 and all for me. Not sure Blaine, just checked and the only thing they list now are single shots. Open the action and a quick yank back will usually eject the empty shells. 2. I did check out the Silverado when I bought mine, and the fit and finish are pretty sweet. Good gun for the money considering you could spend double or triple on a side by side shotgun. See if it doesn't loosen up. Good article. And if I cant figure it out, one of the other cowboy shooters will be able to tell me what to do. But for the novice or beginner the double-barrel stagecoach FedEx says this requires a new shipping label to add insurance, and the sender then has to pay the shipping as well. Stoegers parent company isnt Benelli. Or, if loading your own, what brand of primers? Some need to be frozen to grind them worth a damn. Its benelli go to there site its right there. Shortening the spring is that opens the shotgun is usually the cause of it coming open when fired. It is a Stoeger Coach Gun painted black. Consequently, more and more companies are producing lighter, stronger, and cheaper models. Ak, o ka poe hilinai aku i Ihova, e ulu hou n ko lkou ikaika; There is a fine line between hobby & obsession! Its Beretta. As previously suggested. ATTENTION: Please be aware of online merchants impersonating as direct Stoeger retailers. Light and handy; easy to swing on clay birds or move around corners. Polishing mating surfaces Everyone had told me that the shotgun would loosen up over time with use and become easier to break open. I'll pay what I have to but I don't need a hand built engraved master piece either. 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